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Prepared in Notepad by Ian Smith, updated 15th April 2021.
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The BUS-STOP is an outsider's view of London Transport buses, mainly in the 1930-1980 era.

Whats at the bus stop:

What's New Special Reports Archive RTL1427 at Aldwych for the RT60 road-run to Cobham.
LONDON BUS CLASSES:
1920-30s: K LB D S PS O ADC NS LS
1920-30s: R AJS CH DE DM LN WLV NY BN
1930-40s: LT CC ST LTL T CB DL DT DA GF DC MY
1930-40s: TD TR STL STD BD MS C Q LTC TF CR
1940-50s: B G D TD
1950-70s: RT RTL RTW RTC SRT RF RFW BEA GS RLH
1950-90s: RM RMC RCL RML RMF RMA FRM RX RW RC EC
1960-70s: TT XF XA MB SM SMW SMA RP DMS DMO FS FT
1970-90s: AF AN MS LN LNB SNC SNB LS GSN GLS
1970-90s: BL BN BS BL MD PD3 LS LR BT P,D RN
1980s: RB RS DV DL PL TL TD TP TPL LRC BTL
1980-00s: T M A V Dominators L LR C DA LE1
1980-00s: Volvo Citibuses Scanias Lynxes midibuses Volvo B10s
1990-00s: Leyland Olympians Volvo Olympians DAF d/d DAF s/d
1990-00s: Lances Arrows Darts Falcons Volvo B6 MV
1990-10s: Dart SLFs Optare Excels Scania SLFs MAN
2000-10s: Lance SLFs Cadets Tridents Presidents Omnis
Links to other L.T. sites The sources used About the bus-stop
CBR GREEN ROVERS Garages RTL1427 at Aldwych for the RT60 road-run to Cobham.

What's New:

15th April 2021 More Tridents, this time Arriva the Shires, some of which are still operating.

9th April 2021 Spurred on by e-mails from Brian Watkinson containing details of early RM repaints and body swaps, I have updated/upgraded some RM history pages, including odds and ends trawled from the internet. Pages include: RM1-99, RM100-199, RM200-299, RM1000-1099 and RM1100-1199.

Thanks Brian. More to follow.

HAPPY EASTER. STAY SAFE, STAY WELL

26th March 2021 Universitybus had an eclectic mix of secondhand low-floor double-deckers, including Trident/ALX400s, Trident Presidents and a Volvo/ALX400.

22nd March 2021 Other Trident users included Metroline and Armchair. Quite afew of the latter were leased again by Abellio.

Connex had Tridents, which it passed on to Travel London and then Abellio London. Abellio Surrey got some of them too. These histories have taken some time to compile, as data for these companies seems to have been somewhat overlooked by data-loggers, especially when it came to subsequent disposals, of which there were/are many. So the internet, with the usual caviats, has this time been invaluable, if time consuming.

Meanwhile the Covid viruses still rampage. Most older people have had one jab, and some two, but that doesn't mean that old crocks can suddenly dash around on old buses nilly willy. Nor are younger folk immune, even if their susceptibility is less. So continue to be careful. Read Ian's bus stop!

1st January 2021 For my Christmas project, entirely on a whim, I chose to look at the Alexander ALX400-bodied buses of London United/Transdev/RATP. I had only once travelled on one, so I'm not playing favourites. Otherwise contact with them was restricted to journeys to Cobham for Open Days, or other encounters on Running Days. There were four types:

The Tridents turned out to be some of the longest-lived of the first generation of low-floor double-deckers.

23rd December 2020

It has been a frustrating year. I haven't been on a london bus since January, and only saw a very few in August. Otherwise I have been staying at home. The garden has benefitted. A kitchen refit is just about complete. My wife and I have seen bits of our locality that we have never seen before, in fifty years of living here.

Let us pray for those who have not been as fortunate as us in avoiding the virus or other complications. I know of some, including some in the bus preservation field, who have, or have had, the virus badly

When the restrictions ease, do not rush to climb upon the preserved buses. We may have had the opportunity this year to tackle those jobs that normally get put off during the running day season, so there may be some very good-looking and sweet-running vehicles to come back to. But we want to outlive our vehicles, not the other way round. So if it takes until summer to return to normality (whatever that turns out to be), be patient, stay safe, stay well. There are some possible dates for this year on the CBR page. Whether they can happen depends on public behaviour and the vagaries of the virus.

Those austerity Daimler histories have been upgraded. I am now doing something completely different, with the London United Tridents - soon!

Important News: from the end of April 2016 Virgin Media have ceased to support my web-space. So this page, the bibliography and the Country Bus Rallies front pages have moved across to countrybus.org, ie front page, bibliography, and Country Bus Rallies.

I know this will not be welcome new to those of you who have difficulty accessing www.countrybus.org, but I don't have much choice: eighteen years of loyal customer and Virgin just dumps me.

It will take me some time to change every page that I have written, so that the back-link to the index page points to the right place, so I ask your patience. (My Google links will also take some time to catch up with the move, I expect. Similarly the links to the bibliography page will take time to change.)

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About Ian's Bus Stop: Dreadful warnings!

Ian does not pretend to be an expert: any corrections, additional information, flattery or news gratefully welcomed. Rivet-counters can make their own web-sites!

Most BUS-STOP pages contain:

  • drawings or photos (when I can get them) of a class of London bus;
  • a potted class history;
  • some history of individual buses;
  • a list of photographic sources, and
  • a bibliography.
The histories are not complete. They are assembled from data from a variety of sources, that do not always agree with each other. In some cases I have much more data than I have displayed, and just need time to fill in the gaps. They are are offered as a help to your own researches, not as a complete entity.

I do not attempt to keep the histories up-to-date. If you want the latest information, there are plenty of special interest groups on the net. For comprehensive monthly updates, subscribe to LOTS to get "The London Bus".

The plan drawings by Ian Smith are NOT scale drawings from originals, but based on a few known dimensions and (usually) a variety of photographs. In places inferences have been drawn where the photographic evidence is poor.
In particular adverts shown on buses may have incorrect colouring where I have guessed wrongly from black & white pictures, or may be inappropriate to the livery worn by the bus.
They may be of use to modellers if printed at an appropriate scale. You'll have to experiment to find the right printer settings.

Pages are designed for use on the Firefox browser, on 800*600 resolution. Other resolutions may give odd results. If a display ratio is not 4:3 the photos and drawings may be distorted. Using other browsers may also give odd results at times, especially if they do not follow the rules, like Microsoft's Explorer, which does its own thing. I am trying to amend pages so that they show properly on 4:3 ratio pages other than 800*600, but this may take some time, and you may need a good pair of reading glasses.

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